GOP and Swift boat politics

**sup-rbeast** · September 17th, 2008, 12:48 PM

I would vote for Powell...

**imported_ut1** · September 17th, 2008, 01:19 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 722</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think his color did help him in getting elected. The Clintons had a huge african american following, yet lost a big percentage of that vote in the primaries to Obama.

Either way, both Dem figureheads were running on change, so you can throw out that as the reasoning. Hiliary got a lot of women votes that Obama didn't so I guess you will call me sexist as well as racist even though it is common reasoning. </div></div>

Ditto here. Some just don't like it when the truth is spoken.

**centennialdawg** · September 17th, 2008, 02:51 PM

I have met Powell and I can tell you that he is 100% honest in his beliefs and a genuinely super man. I wouldn't have cared if he was black, white, yellow, green, or even purple. If you can look into a person's eyes and see the honesty that he had inside, then you would understand what I am saying. I do not see that type of honesty in Obama-san's eyes. That is the big difference between Powell and Obama-san. Powell is 100 times the man Obama-san could ever be.

**R13** · September 17th, 2008, 02:58 PM

Of course Obama is going to get the black vote, hes black and a dem. But with the people not voting for Obama because of his color and people voting Mccain just because he's white rep/dem it evens out. He had the black vote anyway, whether he was black or not so it is because the platform of change that he was/is sitting on is why he is where he is today.

**sup-rbeast** · September 17th, 2008, 03:00 PM

Obama got the nomination because of the caucuses...

**R13** · September 17th, 2008, 03:05 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: centennialdawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have met Powell and I can tell you that he is 100% honest in his beliefs and a genuinely super man. I wouldn't have cared if he was black, white, yellow, green, or even purple. If you can look into a person's eyes and see the honesty that he had inside, then you would understand what I am saying. I do not see that type of honesty in Obama-san's eyes. That is the big difference between Powell and Obama-san. Powell is 100 times the man Obama-san could ever be. </div></div>

Most havent met him though, whether he is a great man or not(I like Powell) he wouldve been judged be many voters before he opened his mouth. Its terrible, but thats the society we are living in today. America has come a long way but there are some that havent. I of course didnt grow up in the 60's, but I am guessing that about 99% of people at that time couldnt even fathom that a black guy would be where he is today. As said before there are dems that wont vote for him because of his color and rep that wont do it either, even though theyd prefer anyone else but Mccain. His race has played against him as much or more than it has helped him.

**centennialdawg** · September 17th, 2008, 03:25 PM

Powell would have been the "genuine" deal had he ran for the nomination. Obama-san, to me is just too transparent in his reason for wanting to be president.

**1inStripes** · September 17th, 2008, 03:35 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Of course Obama is going to get the black vote, hes black and a dem. But with the people not voting for Obama because of his color and people voting Mccain just because he's white rep/dem it evens out. He had the black vote anyway, whether he was black or not so it is because the platform of change that he was/is sitting on is why he is where he is today. </div></div>

You missed the point. We're not talking about what votes he has against McCain, we were talking about the votes in the primary.

September 17th, 2008, 03:39 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: centennialdawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have met Powell and I can tell you that he is 100% honest in his beliefs and a genuinely super man. I wouldn't have cared if he was black, white, yellow, green, or even purple. If you can look into a person's eyes and see the honesty that he had inside, then you would understand what I am saying. I do not see that type of honesty in Obama-san's eyes. That is the big difference between Powell and Obama-san. Powell is 100 times the man Obama-san could ever be. </div></div>
Which is exactly why he quit working for Bush?

**centennialdawg** · September 17th, 2008, 03:43 PM

May be, but I can tell you this, he would make one hell of a president because he knows foreign policy, what it means to have a strong military, and his thoughts and beliefs on the issues here at home and how to best correct them are far better than any that the republicans or democrats could come up with.